Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8
Before she was in labor, she gave birth; Before her pain came,
She delivered a male child.
Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day?
Or shall a nation be born at once?
For as soon as Zion was in labor,
She gave birth to her children. 7-8
BEFORE Israel went into labor? What labor? Well, we know from Scripture that Israel's labor will be the 7 year Tribulation. Jesus also uses the analogy of labor pains when talking about the end times, as does the Apostle Paul
For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 1 Thess 5:3
So, we must ask then who is this male child Israel delivered BEFORE the Tribulation? Since Israel will only have 2 children, it has to be the church! We see this is just more evidence of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
Yet, there's more! Remember the Revelation 12 Sign. Here we also see that Israel giving birth.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
This Great Sign is Virgo representing the Virgin Mary or Israel itself. The actual sign appeared in the sky above Jerusalem on September 23rd, 2017. I wrote extensively about in in a prior post (link above). So Israel is in labor.
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. (We know from other Scriptures that this is Satan) And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
Meaning: son, kingshiip, Son of Man, Son of God, Son of David, my beloved Son
Meaning: daughter, son, figuratively used as children of God
Meaning: to Snatch or catch away, take by force
- In these verses we see a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, a catching away of true believers before the Tribulation
- We also see that God is not done with the Jews and that Israel will finally bear God children in the Tribulation.
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Isaiah 26: 19-21
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thess 5:9
I think we are going to go through some form of tribulation, but not the great tribulation of the Wrath of God. Watching for the signs to come!
ReplyDeleteLinda Marie Finn
Hi Mary Lu,
ReplyDeleteI grew up with Pre-Tribulation Rapture teaching, but when I was 16 or 17, an answered prayer caused me to doubt it--it was because I saw that a passage I'd associated with a Pre-Trib Rapture was actually not about a rapture at all! So, I searched further, and I was (and remain so) convinced it's not possible. If you are willing to watch or read my testimony, you can find it in the Foundations section of my website (https://overcomingthetribulation.com) or the Foundations playlist on my YouTube channel (https://youtube.com/overcomingthetribulation).
Jesus has one body, made up of Israelites and Gentiles of every tribe, tongue and nation (eventually). Romans 11:11-15 speaks of Israel and the Gentile believers, but it's about one family of God. Israel is the last to see in greater measure, but this will bring the resurrection of the dead for all our benefit! The resurrection is at His coming (1 Corinthians 15:22-23)--the first resurrection (Revelation 20:1-6 for context, or even fuller context, 19:11-20:6). What I'd learned in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 about the timing of the alive and remain being caught up (after the dead in the Christ rise) convinced me that the catching up of the alive and remain was after the first resurrection, at His coming (Post-Trib). I have two articles on my website that I can recommend when it comes to Israel and the Gentile believers: "It's Jacob's Trouble" (written as an answer to the Pre-Trib argument), and "The Mystery of the Olive Tree." You can easily find both if you visit my website and look for them.
Psalm 2 and Revelation 19 speak of Messiah as the One to reign with rod of iron, and so that must be the male Child born in Revelation 12--not the Church. I believe the sign of the sun, moon, and twelve stars is a reference to Joseph's dream about his family in Genesis 37--like it's a way of saying Messiah is born from the family of Jacob (Israel). Satan of course is the dragon. He surely instigated Herod to try to kill Jesus as a baby (Matthew 2). I believe the catching up to God and His throne refers to Jesus' ascension at the end of His first-coming ministry.
I encourage you to prayerfully look into the matter. It's important that understand what to expect and what God expects of us.
God bless,
Annette Bell
Annette, thank you for your long response about the rapture. I can tell you feel strongly about your position and you want others to understand it as well. I don't fault you for it. Many good, God-fearing people and pastors believe as you do. However, I have studied the rapture for 20 years. I have read every book, listened to every pastor and view point, and studied the Scriptures. I used to believe as you do, but then the Lord opened my eyes. The entire Bible is actually about the rapture of God's children... it is portrayed in typologies all through the Holy Word. A good understanding of Hebrew really helps as well, which I have studied. I cannot be moved from my position at this point. There's just too much evidence for a pre-trib rapture. But I do not hold anyone's position on this against them. And one's belief on the timing of the rapture is not important or essential to their love for and walk with Jesus! I appreciate your thoughtful response, however, and ask the Lord to greatly bless you and your walk with Him!
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